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Lindsay* Surname Haplotype Database - General Analysis & Conclusions

Foreword

Based on the information that has been gained thus far, many of the participants, in an on-going dialog, are communicating directly with each other to ascertain where their genealogies intersect and hopefully will eventually be able to determine the name of the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) that they share.

Some participants will personally choose to publicly reveal their names associated with their DNA information.  That is their right and choice to do so.  No contact information for any participant will be provided to any enquiries to this web site.

One way to gain direct contact with the Lindsay participants and their specific Lindsay genealogies is to have a male bearing the Lindsay surname from your Lindsay lineage to register and participate in the Lindsay DNA testing.  Click on the Lindsay DNA Project Registration Form and get involved with this effort while there are still living male heirs to your Lindsay lineage.

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The General Analysis & Conclusions section of this web page is not continuing but is retained for historic purposes.

General Analysis & Conclusions

This section will be used to make general statements concluded from the current level of data in the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.

  • This section was last updated: March 16, 2010

  • Number of Participants Currently Reflected in the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database: 205

  • Geographies Currently Represented by Lindsay Participants: Australia, Canada, England, New Zealand, Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Scotland and the United States.

  •  The general analysis & conclusions for our Project applies to the color-coded table found in the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database which is a summary of the data representing the current level of participation of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project.

March 16, 2010 - 11th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Twenty-three additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 11th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined pages dealing with the Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 17.

November 10, 2008 - 10th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Twenty-seven additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 10th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined pages dealing with the Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 17.

October 4, 2007 - 9th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Twenty-four additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 9th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined Lindsay DNA Groupings (1 thru 15) pages.

January 30, 2007 - 8th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Fifteen additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 8th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined Lindsay DNA Groupings (1 thru 13) pages.

August 18, 2006 - 7th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Eleven additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 7th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined Lindsay DNA Groupings (1 thru 13) pages.

February 5, 2006 - 6th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Fifteen additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 6th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined Lindsay DNA Groupings (1 thru 13) pages.

April 25, 2005 - 5th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Twenty-nine additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 5th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined Lindsay DNA Groupings (1 thru 12) pages.

August 30, 2003 - 4th Round Testing Results/Analysis

Twelve additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 4th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined Lindsay DNA Groupings (1 thru 9) pages.

March 5, 2003 - Additional Conclusions From 3rd Round Results

After further analysis, an additional participant has been added to DNA Group 2 and an additional DNA Group 9 has been added, which includes the participant representing the Albemarle Lindseys.

February 26, 2003 - 3rd Round Testing Results/Analysis

The analysis of our findings thus far, for the combined 1st , 2nd , and 3rd Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is basically found in the DNA Groupings (1 thru 8) located at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database

October 14, 2002 - 2nd Round Testing Results/Analysis

The analysis of our findings thus far, for the combined 1st and 2nd Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is basically found in the DNA Groupings (1 thru 8) located at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.

June 11, 2002 - Initial Analysis & Conclusions

Although most participants in this 1st round of testing did not find a potential “near term” common ancestor match, our first round of testing did provide some fantastic results for three groupings of Lindsay participants.  The preliminary highlights, deduced by the Project Coordinator using limited genealogical analysis, are as follows. 

q      Five Lindsay participants match 24 out of 24 markers (two groupings L0001, L0006, L0007 & L0020 with L0021).  It does not get any better than this!  Based on the current consensus, the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) for these Lindsay participants, using a mutation rate of .002, occurred within the last 7.2 generations (median), with a range of 0.3 generations to 38.4 generations with 95% confidence.  Using 30 years per generation this computes to 216 years ago for the median 7.2 generations. 

q      Two Lindsay participants match 23 out of 24 (L0017 with L0003); MRCA = 17.9 generations (median), range of 2.6 to 59.3 generations. 

q      Three Lindsay participants match 22 out of 24 (L0004 with L0001, L0006, L0007 & L0010 with L0011); MRCA = 29.1 generations (median), range of 6.7 to 78.7 generations. 

q      Based on what is known by the Project Coordinator regarding the individual genealogies of the participants of the 1st Round of testing, Lindsay participants L0001, L0006, L0007, L0004, L0014 most likely represent the haplotype for one or more lineages of Lindsays who migrated from Scotland to Ireland before departing to many parts of the world.  This group of Lindsay participants represents the most definitive in terms of number of matches or lack of mismatches. 

q      At this point in the Project, I have established for the first 21 Lindsay participants, four “major haplotypes”, based on numbers of mismatches.   This will most likely change as the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database grows in size.

  1. Major Haplotype   I;  L0001, L0006, L0007, L0004, L0014

  2. Major Haplotype  II;  L0005, L0008, L0009, L0012

  3. Major Haplotype III;  L0020, L0021

  4. Major Haplotype IV;  L0015, L0010, L0011, L0017, L0003, L0002, L0019, L0013, L0016, L0018

q      Major Haplotype IV represents the largest and most dominant group (10 participants) that likely shares a common ancestor although this common ancestor is clearly many generations in the distant past.  From the genealogical records in my possession, there is no particular origin or Lindsay lineage suggested for this group.  Hopefully the follow-on dialog among the Lindsay Project participants will lead to a better understanding of these genealogies and the potential common ancestor at least for those lineages with 22 or more marker matches.  It is anticipated that one or more of the "Virginia Lindsay Lineages" will evolve from a section within this haplogroup.  It is interesting that all three of the perfect Atlantic Modal Haplotype (AMH) matches occurred within this group along with the participant who had one miss-match with the AMH.

q      The Atlantic Modal Haplotype (AMH) does not point out anything specific to the Lindsay surname but it is a haplotype or haplogroup that is developing significance for the global community in identifying regions of one’s ancestors.  The AMH is associated geographically with the Atlantic coast of Europe and more specifically with the United Kingdom.  For what it is worth, Lindsay participants L0003, L0017 & L0019 all map precisely to the Atlantic Modal Haplotype (AMH).  Lindsay participant L0015 has one mismatch to the AMH.  The Atlantic Modal Haplotype (AMH) is a haplotype consisting of the following markers and alleles, as frequently seen in the Atlantic coast region of Europe: DYS388 = 12, DYS393 = 13, DYS392 = 13, DYS19/DYS394 = 14, DYS390 = 24, DYS391 = 11.  If a person has one mutation in either direction, then he is AMH 1.15+.  The AMH 1.15 haplotype is also referred to as the Atlantic Modal Cluster or AMC.  Generally 1.15+ puts one in haplogroup 1. 

There are also several anomalies within the data you see in the table provided.  There are three data cells where you see the term “Null”.  For whatever reason, the laboratory found it impossible to obtain a reading for these two markers for these three Lindsay participants.  We may see results later for these data cells, assuming the test laboratory can resolve their process inability to record a value. 

Another area requiring explanation is the data cells that contain alpha (A, B, C, etc.) characters.  The laboratory is withholding the numerical values for these markers until such time the industry wide calibration process has been completed.  The calibration process will standardize the derivation process for the value recorded in order to allow comparison with any worldwide laboratory’s results.  However, this issue does not present a problem for the Lindsay Surname DNA Project.  All participants who currently have the same identical alpha characters in the data cell can be assured their future numeric values will also be the same, whatever they are determined to be. 

The next step for each of the Lindsay DNA Project participants is to establish interactive dialog basically with participants in their closest match group and hopefully determine where these Lindsay lineages possible intersect and attempt to ascertain the name of the potential common ancestor that is shared. 

We are currently a database of 21 with 13 more participants to be added with the 2nd Round of Testing.  To really be meaningful, the majority of us will have to wait until the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database grows with the addition of more Lindsay males from which hopefully we will find other Lindsay  lineages that provides fewer mismatches, yielding a potential common ancestor in the nearer term. 

If we wish to see the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database continue to grow it will be incumbent upon the worldwide Lindsay community to continue to work as a group to ensure that as many Lindsay lineages are tested as possible.  Hopefully at some point we will be able to easily match any Lindsay (how ever spelt) male who is tested with another well documented Lindsay lineage. 

Additional statements regarding the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database will be added as they are concluded and proven through our joint research efforts. 

Copyright © March 2010, Ronald G. Lindsay, All rights reserved.

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